when talking to my jw friend.... she asked me if i had seen the news about businesses now not putting up xmas deco's etc.
this is so as not to offend people of other religions ie jw's and muslims etc.. she said this is going to lead to (a start of) the banning of all religions worldwide!?.
i said i think it shows more tolerance and respect for other religions.... that is not how she sees it (or any other jw's that have been discussing it).. what are your thoughts on this.
The SUN newspaper here in the UK ran a front page article about the rediculous situation of geting rid of xmas decorations, interestingly it also noted that Rudolf the red nose raindeer was an ad campaign in the 40's and has become part of xmas. So these things are always evolving, so it doesnt mean the end of religion at all.
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will increased pressure - pickets, websites, books, letters to fellow witnesses, have a positive or negative impact on the ultimate goal most apostates have - seeing the organization eventually crumble and fall?.
my take is that more pressure is good.
it makes the 'real personality' of the organization express itself in greater oppression, more demands, greater efforts to isolate the flock from education, career, family, reality.. eventual result of oppression is rebellion.
I wouldnt so much say its pressure but presence, we are here and are staying, so there is somewhere people can look at both sides of it - whether interested or long time members. Most of us dont tend to go on the offensive, but we still contribute. This site is just one of many examples of where we help, additionally when speaking to people I guess we give an anti witness, based on our experiences, which in turn spreads the word.
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um, wasn't the "special tract" that was being placed in october and november suppose to cause great outrage amongst false religion, in particular the catholic church?
weren't theys supposed to demand that the government ban jehovah's witnesses?
surely something would have been written in the newspapers or be on cnn about all the governments of the world going ahead and banning all religions, or did i blink and miss that?
I'm sure the R&F are just happy that the campaign is over and done with and that they are not being persecuted - really how many Jw's (unless fanatical) wanted this life to end, much less by being turned on by the governments and being banned/imprisoned/beaten up/killed/separated from loved ones etc etc.
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a couple of threads about recent watchtower articles as made me wonder what they're thinking when they are writing them for a magazine that is supposed to be for preaching purposes.
i tried to put myself in the mind of somebody that didn't know much about jehovah's witnesses.
the stuff on weddings would have been weird at best, and the recent articles aimed at parents whose children leave the wt must strike normal people as down right creepy.
Its so true - when I was a JW i'd be embarresed to admit certain things to people, because in all honesty it didnt make sense to me when I was saying it to 'worldy' people. Once back in the box (among fellow JW's - it all made sense again). Now i've left all that I am happy to tell people about that past, because I can now agree that it was so much BS.
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Thanks Blondie!
That made me so nauseous when i read it . I said to my ex about last weeks study and she said its just common sense, so why do they need to go into such micro detail about all aspects? Can the so called christians not decide for themselves without being coached by the 'FDS'? How can you make such commands of men, when there is no biblical precedent? Obviously we know the reasons here, and this is an area that started to grate on me when I was attending, all it does is drive you mad to do as your told, and not as you see fit. The men at the top really dont trust their slaves fellow brothers do they!
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well, it's good to know what the watchtower's priorities are these days.
they're facing dwindling numbers in the industrialized nations, a growing number of child abuse lawsuits, a pedophile database of over 23,000 members just waiting to be exposed, and what do they have on the front page of their website?
phone sex!!.
Great topic! They are so obsessed with sex! Its no wonder jw's have tried just about everything they condemned as its been so talked about, you cant help but be curious about it! Anyway cant stop i'm on the phone!
wow i've just realised that its been just over a year that i've been here, how time flies.
well i've had many ups and downs in life over that time, found new friends, learned a few important lessons and so on.
i feel much further away from the jw mindset than i was a year ago.
Cheers troubled mind! 'chink'
i think it's hilarious that when you post facts there is still always someone arguing it.. makes you want to stop bothering if people don't want to learn.. but then again my family has only been in the truth for 100 years so what would i know?.
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My point again is that I could receive, read and have a copy of a WT letter about something and someone will still say I'm wrong
yeah it is funny how that happens, I agree (oh thats the end of this discussion then )
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i think it's hilarious that when you post facts there is still always someone arguing it.. makes you want to stop bothering if people don't want to learn.. but then again my family has only been in the truth for 100 years so what would i know?.
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Although your argument with your wife is a fact to you, we on the board have no proof, and can therefore do one of two things, 1) agree with you - end of discussion or 2) disagree and have a big dispute over it
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i think it's hilarious that when you post facts there is still always someone arguing it.. makes you want to stop bothering if people don't want to learn.. but then again my family has only been in the truth for 100 years so what would i know?.
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Often it comes down to interpretation of the facts and what point of view you look at them, can you perhaps give an example of the sort of thing you mean?
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